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Another Recession
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Slashed growth forecast raises recession fears

Ireland is staring down the barrel of another recession after the Central Bank more than halved forecasts for economic growth, opposition politicians have warned.

Opposition politicians claimed a mini-budget was on the cards after the dramatic reassessment warned the economy would expand by just 0.5% in 2012 rather than previous estimates of 1.8%.

The Central Bank blamed a combination of falling demand from consumers at home and a poor export market.

The revised report on the economic outlook slashed the official predictions from October forecasting 1.8% growth in 2012, and a 2.1% prediction in the July bulletin last year.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny refused to accept the Government’s more optimistic budget forecasts are out of line with the Central Bank and claimed the real priority is creating jobs.

“The Government’s growth figures are median figures and we are prepared to stand by those,” Mr Kenny said.

“(It is) very difficult for anybody to determine what the final growth figure might be but the Government have set out their figures and we stand by that.”

Jobs Minister Richard Bruton has been tasked with publishing in the next fortnight an action plan to ease the unemployment crisis.

The Central Bank also warned unemployment would hit 14.6%, only eased by increasing emigration with 40,000 people expected to leave this year. The prediction for 2013 is 14.1% if exports pick up.

Pearse Doherty, Sinn Féin finance spokesman, said Ireland was “without doubt” facing another recession.

“We have Enda Kenny time and time again saying we have brought the country back to growth. The Central Bank is telling us the domestic economy is going to shrink again next year,” he said.

“For people at home who aren’t interested in GNP or GDP, what does this mean? It means jobs are going to be lost, it means businesses are going to be struggling, it means more people are going to emigrate, it means more pressures on families.

“If this Government continues on this path, they will introduce more cuts to bring them into line with a target that is getting more difficult day by day to reach.”

The Central Statistics Office (CSO) reports showed the economy was last in recession in 2008 and 2009.

Mr Doherty said the startling reassessment by the Central Bank makes a mini-budget more likely.

Michael McGrath, Fianna Fáil finance spokesman, said: “We are now looking at the fifth successive year of a contraction in the domestic economy.

“In opposition, Fine Gael and Labour consistently said you cannot cut and tax your way out of recession. In Government, they now need to put those words into action.”

One of the most significant areas to be hit by the lack of growth will be the domestic economy, the bank said.

Gross national product, which excludes the value of the big employers in the multinational sector, will contract by 0.7%, the report said.

Figures from the first bulletin of 2012 showed:

:: The overall economy measured by GDP grew by 0.8% last year; 0.5% this year; and 2.1% in 2013.

:: Homegrown economy measured by GNP down 0.6 last year; down 0.7% this year; and 1% growth in 2013.

:: Consumer spending was down by 2.9% in 2011; forecast to fall 1.5% this year; and rise by 0.2% in 2013.

Elsewhere, it said competitiveness was improving and although overall wages are not falling further there are signs Ireland is coming more into line with trading partners.

The Central Bank also called for improved efficiencies in the provision of public services amid a backdrop of tighter resources and greater competition in some private sector services.
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#2
Another one? Never knew the first one had ended.
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#3
I think we should try and convince the world that we are no longer Ireland!!

We are, in fact, a new country and those who got the country so far in debt are living in Cuba on the billions they owe!

Recession? What recession?? Ireland? Sorry mate, this is Hibernia..... No recession here.

New Gov't could be called 'The People' and would consist of regular Joes and Joans who know all about the hardship of living in these times, and the great ( and achievable ideas and goals ) could be done. Regular people, on regular wages, doing a better job than is currently being done.

The current lot who bent this country over and, well, ye know how this saying goes, should be sent to an island somewhere very wet, and left fend for themselves with minimal resources available to them ( Just like us ) with no say as to how they are led ( Like us ) and see how the feel.

Problem solved. :p

** These views are my own, and thems the facts! :D
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#4
You'd wonder what to believe these days, the six one news said its not as bad as previously thought and highlight the surprise growth in the US.

It seems clear that no one knows exactly what's happening, remember we are the Country who didn't realise we had a few Billion unaccounted for.
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#5
I have gone beyond reading what the ""papers"" say about the state of our little Island.


** possible rant ahead 59







Irrespective of the size of our problems, we will come through it. It still grits my shit though, that there is a steady core of lazy, good for fuck all, wasters in this country who consider it their individual citizenistic right to ride the system for all its worth.


They squeeze the hard working joe/jane soaps, both public & private sector who go to work every morning, and earn their living despite the Governments' best efforts to get us all to up sticks and leave for greener pastures.

There should be a new slogan outside every dole office in the land for the attention of these spongers.



GET UP - SHUT THE FUCK UP - AND WORK LIKE THE REST OF US.




**rant over, apologies for the french.
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#6
Can it possibly get any worse than it already is?
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(04-02-2012, 05:50 PM)gdamedic Wrote: Can it possibly get any worse than it already is?


Watch this space....... it probably will.

The government will probably ask us to pay them for the privilege of saying we have a job next instead of them paying us.
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#8
If they take anymore pay off us il be handing my keys back to the bank.
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