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#1
and you guys are complaining about the state of your cars? it seems they had no place to give them to!

300 garda cars left idle for over a year

Friday June 11 2010

MORE than 700 garda squad cars were bought by the State without any discount being secured -- and some of them ended up in storage for a year and a half, writes Michael Brennan.

An Garda Siochana rushed to buy the cars after getting a late allocation of €17m from the Exchequer, but there was no provision for a discount for such a bulk purchase in the contract with the supplier, the Ford Motor Company.

Around 300 of the 726 Ford Mondeo squad cars bought in the last two months of 2006 were left sitting in the compounds of the supplier and the fitting-out subcontractor for up to a year-and-a-half before they were put into service.

This was because gardai got almost 1,400 new cars (60pc of the entire fleet) in total in 2006 and were not able to assign them quickly enough.

The Dail's Public Accounts Committee recommended yesterday that the Garda modernise its commissioning system "to avoid having to keep new vehicles in storage for any prolonged period".

It pointed out that the value of the cars was depreciating while they were not in use. There are now 2,679 vehicles in the Garda fleet and the average age of each vehicle is 2.4 years.

The State's spending watchdog, Comptroller and Auditor General John Buckley, pointed out that Garda cars were normally bought after an analysis was carried out by the Garda fleet management system.

"The cause of the accelerated acquisition pattern was simply the availability of money. The fact that this money would have to be surrendered if it was not spent led to the drawdown of vehicles far beyond the capacity to deploy them," he told the Public Accounts committee during its investigation.

The committee recommended the Department of Finance introduce a "carryover mechanism" for funding for vehicle purchases instead of a "use it or lose it" system.

Irish Independent


i also read (but cant find it now) that gardai will be getting police special vehicles by the end of the year, i think it was in the herald or indo, it said that about 70 cars will have to be taken from the fleet as they surpass 300k on the clock, im open to correction on the figures here but nearly certain it said police special vehicles....
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#2
Trust me if the lads on the ground had their way, all the cars would have been put into service straight away. Same story in the NAS, a load of new ambulances in 07 were put in storage & not issued until 08, same with the pts buses. All bought last year, sitting in storage for up to 12months & then issued this year when we were crying out for replacement vehicles both ambulances & pts buses. Management/fleet management plans do not exactly favour the ordinary member on the ground.
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#3
Seems the Water Unit are looking for a new truck.

http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/s...=JUN153355

For those interested, here is the specification list from 2007 for all of the vehicles which were required.

http://www.opw.ie/en/media/Cars%20and%20...tract1.pdf

Still looking for the new tender.
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#4
Your right lad it definitely said police specials and only cars over 300k being replaced never mnd the ones that are in a bundle and would be seized If they were civi cars

it was on page 17 of the indo (small one)
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#5
They can replace our yoke - i wouldnt object!

I wonder will they take cars in from the country and give them to the pale and replace the country cars. They have been known to do that in the past!
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#6
NAS have a recommended 5 year or 200,00miles replacement policy.

I should stress the recommended word.
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#7
Pepper spray and Tetra were RECOMMENDED over a decade ago if i recall correctly.......
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#8
So was our Advanced Course in 1993...
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#9
Progression at its best!
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(23-06-2010, 10:47 PM)bravo alpha Wrote: Your right lad it definitely said police specials and only cars over 300k being replaced never mnd the ones that are in a bundle and would be seized If they were civi cars

it was on page 17 of the indo (small one)

sure i heard that parts for some of our cars had to be sourced 2nd hand
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#11
Found the link eventually. Couldn't find it because the purchaser is the National Procurement Service and not An Garda Síochána.

http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/s...=JUN157235
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#12
The star newspaper on saturday had a small piece saying that a batch of new squad cars was arriving soon (this month i think) and im nearly sure it said 300.....wonder are they mostly corollas or avensis or god forbid an aygo!
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#13
Jeez have yis not heard of the cutbacks. Cowan and Co have come up with a way to save money on tyres, there giving yis one less on the new squad cars. :D

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/1711469

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#14
has any station seen any of the new cars?
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#15
we were told we're getting 2 new cars, but it won't be until well into the month before they're delivered.I'll let ye know when they do arrive.
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#16
(11-01-2011, 07:56 AM)Shakin Wrote: The star newspaper on saturday had a small piece saying that a batch of new squad cars was arriving soon (this month i think) and im nearly sure it said 300.....wonder are they mostly corollas or avensis or god forbid an aygo!

Great pursuit car in fairness! I'll guess Mondeo's and Avensis'.
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#17
thanks fonise 19
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#18
seen the insiginia in the phoenix park the other day (operational) so pretty
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(11-01-2011, 10:38 PM)bravo alpha Wrote: seen the insiginia in the phoenix park the other day (operational) so pretty

I think it is one of the demo models. I doubt we will see too much of them unfortunatley 04
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(11-01-2011, 10:38 PM)bravo alpha Wrote: seen the insiginia in the phoenix park the other day (operational) so pretty
I was talking to a member of AGS while working at Oxegen 2 years ago, he was saying that the Insignia's were being looked at as they are NCAP 5 star, and have a strong choice of engines/high spec for the price etc.

Time will tell for ye all though! For us on the other hand, we will be waiting a few more years for our upgrade.....
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