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Protest (water)
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Question for the gardai.

I have been curious as to what the individual member think for these protest. I read the blanket statment from press offices and so on but how the one man in the boots feel .....

If i went to a station and said what ever and i was told it was a civil matter i would be told just that and i would go or a guard would advise me its a civil matter and leave.....

why is the force so insist on saturating any demo in housing estates with guardai.... i presume ye have and want to be doing better things.
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(09-10-2015, 02:57 PM)Intheknow Wrote: why is the force so insist on saturating any demo in housing estates with guardai.... i presume ye have and want to be doing better things.

Why indeed? http://www.thejournal.ie/james-reilly-ca...9-Oct2015/

And for your information, there is no right to protest in Ireland, it's a right to Lawful Assembly. 

Quote:6 1° The State guarantees liberty for the exercise of the following rights, subject to public order and morality: –



i The right of the citizens to express freely their convictions and opinions.



The education of public opinion being, however, a matter of such grave import to the common good, the State shall endeavour to ensure that organs of public opinion, such as the radio, the press, the cinema, while preserving their rightful liberty of expression, including criticism of Government policy, shall not be used to undermine public order or morality or the authority of the State.



The publication or utterance of blasphemous, seditious, or indecent matter is an offence which shall be punishable in accordance with law.



ii The right of the citizens to assemble peaceably and without arms.



Provision may be made by law to prevent or control meetings which are determined in accordance with law to be calculated to cause a breach of the peace or to be a danger or nuisance to the general public and to prevent or control meetings in the vicinity of either House of the Oireachtas.

The Constitution
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#3
I understand the constitution and the rights. But why do the gardai insist on infringing and denying an persons right

Surely these are educated people and know what there doing is wrong....?
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#4
(09-10-2015, 03:36 PM)Intheknow Wrote: I understand the constitution and the rights. But why do the gardai insist on infringing and denying an persons right

Surely these are educated people and know what there doing is wrong....?

Why is what they are doing wrong? What wrong thing are they doing?

Is it wrong because you don't agree with it? Irish water and the installation is fully legal, the Gards job is to uphold the law, while an individual member may not agree with Irish Water they still have to do their job
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#5
(09-10-2015, 03:36 PM)Intheknow Wrote: I understand the constitution and the rights. But why do the gardai insist on infringing and denying an persons right

Surely these are educated people and know what there doing is wrong....?

In what way are they infringing peoples rights?
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#6
If you want to protest/assemble lawfully and give out. Fire away, make up a few posters. Stand away from the lads working and make a scene. ROCK ON.

start jumping in the ground works or stopping a man doing a days work, gardai are going to be called and will get involved
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#7
If these idiots who call themselves peaceful protesters would only protest peacefully then there wouldn't be a need for "saturing" the place with Gardai. 

The terms of the injunction are that the protesters stay at least 20m away from the water meter installers....but I've never seen that happen! 

Also, those lefty clowns in the AAA etc.....try detaining the deputy head of state for over 2 hours in any other country and let's see how they get on......

These fools make my blood boil.....editing footage to suit the plot....it's a pity there wasn't such an uproar about the USC.....do you pay USC out of the dole? Maybe that's why.
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#8
(09-10-2015, 03:36 PM)Intheknow Wrote: I understand the constitution and the rights. But why do the gardai insist on infringing and denying an persons right

Surely these are educated people and know what there doing is wrong....?
Please see link below for another example of "peaceful protest"
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1009/733579-...y-protest/

The term peaceful does not to my knowledge include the throwing of missiles of any kind.
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#9
And of course the farcical claim by an AAA TD "that he was elected to break the law!" really assists in attracting persons to protests who are only interested in peacefully getting their message across.
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#10
Given the tone of your comments, I think you're just here for a row with gardaí.
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#11
Agreed:

It would appear that irrespective of any valid opinions ( which was the object of your original post ) you will still look to objectify the hostile & unlawful actions of a few as peaceful protesting.
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#12
just cause you say peaceful protest does not mean it is ..... Also using kids as a barrier between u and the guards while you throw stuff and shout at said guards is not peaceful
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#13
(09-10-2015, 03:36 PM)Intheknow Wrote: Surely these are educated people and know what there doing is wrong....?

Well, the individual Garda may not like water charges (Personally I agree with them) but that doesnt mean we can or should allow people to destroy them. We are a democracy and when you dont like whats being done by government you respond within the democratic methods allowed ie vote for a party that will abolish water charges.

(09-10-2015, 03:36 PM)Intheknow Wrote: I understand the constitution and the rights. But why do the gardai insist on infringing and denying an persons right 

Perhaps you might point out what rights are being infringed and in particular, what law or section of the constitution? The reason I ask is because you evidently misunderstand the constitution.
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