This forum uses cookies
This forum makes use of cookies to store your login information if you are registered, and your last visit if you are not. Cookies are small text documents stored on your computer; the cookies set by this forum can only be used on this website and pose no security risk. Cookies on this forum also track the specific topics you have read and when you last read them. Please confirm whether you accept or reject these cookies being set.

A cookie will be stored in your browser regardless of choice to prevent you being asked this question again. You will be able to change your cookie settings at any time using the link in the footer.

Judge Criticises Government Departments over Vehicle Registration
Only getting around to posting this from December. Hamill makes a good point about the lax system of vehicle registration in this country.

Quote:Judge highlights serious flaws in justice system
Analysis: Giving incorrect information means people can often be beyond the law
The facts laid out by District Court Judge William Hamill to a Law Reform Commission meeting this week suggest a bungling State apparently incapable of getting the justice system right, rather than being too broke to do so.
It is more difficult to open a bank or post office account in the Republic than to register yourself as the owner of vehicle that can travel at speeds of up to 200km/h and take the lives of innocent people when things go wrong, as they often do.
The contact address motorists supply to the vehicle registration office is not checked and does not need to be supported by documentation such as utility bills. Similarly, oneâ€s name, date of birth and even gender require no real level of proof.
If you commit a road traffic offence in a vehicle after deliberately or carelessly submitting the wrong contact details, the State will not be able to find you to prosecute you.
Summonses to appear in court and the warrants for your arrest when you fail to appear or for the non-payment of fines generated by your law-breaking will rattle around the Garda and Irish Courts Service computer system.
They will be “unexecuted and unexecutable” in cyberspace while you continue on the roads out of reach of the law.
In total, Judge Hamill revealed, there were 142,521 motoring related warrants unexecuted across all parts of the justice system at present.
Apart from guilty parties escaping justice, the inability of the system to find most of the people at the centre of the cases was costing the State millions in fines revenue lost each year, a total of €7.4 million for 2011 and 2012.
Judge Hamill suggested both the Road Safety Authority and Department of Transpor
t were failing to ventilate all of these serious problems.
Apart from false registrations, people changing address did not have to amend their details with the vehicle registration office. And some vehicles were still registered to companies that had long since ceased to exist.
Judge Hamill had recently cancelled more than 20 warrants in the name of a company struck off since 2006 that had accrued “unexecuted and executable” warrants between then and 2014.
In another case he had cancelled 20 warrants in the name of a person who could not be traced, meaning the warrants could not be executed. About half of the warrants provided for imprisonment of the person to a male prison and the other half to a female prison.
“Such fundamentals as a date of birth and the gender of the person werenâ€t known,” he said.
And even if the people at the centre of cases were found, there was “a certain category of defendant” that simply refused to pay.
They did so knowing the prison term they would have to serve in default would involve being brought to a jail and released “quicker than the time it takes to complete the formalities by the gardaí lodging them there”.

Irish Times - Home of the real emergency service personnel.
I hated being in front of him, but the man was no fool and knew a broken system when he saw one.

Our entire road traffic system is based on honesty and it being 'minor' and therefore only really a way to deal with minor indiscretions by decent people. It wasnt created to be utilised for criminals and lowlifes because they were presumed to have been locked up for their criminal behaviour in the first place. 

To make matters worse, subsequent laws and acts have compounded the issue by making pretty serious traffic offences either summons only or penalty points which we cant even fecking apply to other eu licenses fully.

I can register a car tomorrow to Mickey Mouse, 123 Fake street. I can also obtain a license in the name of Admin Administrator with 123 fake street and a second one after being banned in the name of Admin A Administrator of 124 Fake street. The person in 124 will of course hand me my post believing it to be a postal error.

Ass to that the front to back usage of foreign names that we dont notice and the constant 'selling' of cars between mates, often in the same house!

And dont get me started on the crazy issue thats its not an offence to knowlingly use another persons address
Before contacting us, please read our Help section especially if its about Verification or obtaining a Site email address. After that, you can contact me by either PM or E-mail and I will do my best to help.
they have tightened up the licences now, you have to show a recent bill for the address and proof of PPS details

I think that when registering a vehicle or changing owner, it should have to be done in person at the local motor tax office and a licence or passport should have to be produced and a copy reatined. Recent proof of address should also be required
Those who can, do.

Those who can't do, teach.

Those who can't do or teach....... Manage!